Panasonic Hc_x920 Digital Camera ...how Much...?
- #one
It pains me to write this as I am a dedicated Panasonic user. I started with a SD700 and progressed to a SD900 a couple of years ago. Equally I edit on FCP I never utilize the 50p mode, as the highest 1080i mode was superb in every way. I am not obsessed with low light functioning, I shoot usually indoors with fluorescent studio lights and the SD900 performed in all situations brilliantly. Then I saw the X920 appear as an "astonishing" replacement for the SD900 and like a gullible fool, roughshod for the blurb and bought one. I fifty-fifty put my trusty SD900 direct on Ebay and sold information technology.
The x920 is truly dreadful in comparison to the SD900. I have tried every possible setting, transmission, Ia, everything. It cannot adjust quickly to changes in light and in its highest non 50p mode, ie its PH mode, the moving-picture show is fuzzy although the bitrate is higher than the SD900. To get anything like the quality of my former SD900 I must now shoot in 50p style and than down convert to 1080i in Pro Res. This camcorder is so unforgiving, brand the slightest mistake with a brilliant window in the background and it goes haywire. The SD900 seemed to instinctively know that it was the centre of the picture you are actually interested in and behave accordingly. I believe to placate the "Low lite" mob, Panasonic have placed the sensor in a permanent country of amplification which results in footling or no dissimilarity in whatever setting every bit the film is constantly existence boosted.Get a slight flake of cloudy light on a wall and the X920 burns out. This camcorder is a nightmare!
Anyway, I am now putting this pile of junk for sale on Ebay and will now wait to buy another SD900.
- #2
Sorry to read this unfortunate episode.
The x920 was reviewed in Calculator Shopper ( a worthy periodical, IMHO) and information technology didn't get rave reviews - unless you "must-have" WiFi .
I call up there was an improvement in the 3x Sensor-size, but possibly with sufficient Studio-lighting, you won't notice whatsoever improvement. That 50i/50p upshot is worrying as I am using a modern Sony camcorder and it'south still in 50i mode (until I upgrade to Vegas Movie-Studio v12). Nevertheless, on paper the CX410 has a disasterously unmarried small sensor - yet when filming dark-fourth dimension in the street it produces skillful night-time shots - and I can't see any noise issues, although indoors with minimal lighting that is visible, until switching to Low-Low-cal which gives an extra Stop. When using studio-lights it's fab - "Depression-Calorie-free" seems to be a Marketing friend.
The Pana series are very popular in camcorder clubs, and then it was something of a Maveric descision for me to go
Sony
BOSS, however, I'd done a shop-comparing test with my NEX5 (APSC sensor!)which showed I could not see any difference . . . this surprised me, only the show was there to run into.
Have yous contacted any X920 owners . . . & exercise they confirm these bug...?
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- #four
Make no mistake, outside the X920 is sensational in 50p, in near night information technology is also sensational. Unfortunately, still in any environs like inside a a well lit flat with windows, it is abysmal.Call up I Desire TO BE Incorrect!I would exist ecstatic if someone wrote saying, "You idiot you lot need to press the "EXTRA Adept VIDEO" push and it volition all be OK!lol I accept simply wasted nigh £800 on this thing, I am stuck on a shoot in Europe with information technology for a whole month, gnashing my teeth at its awful operation. As far equally reviews on Amazon are concerned, I noticed 1 person had owned his concluding camcorder for 15 years and thought the X920 was amazing. Well, fifteen years in this technology is like going back 200 hundred years in vehicle technology, so to a human being in 1813 a Trabant motor machine would seem like the ultimate technology, too well-nigh all reviewers drone on and on about low lite operation every bit if they are living in hugger-mugger caves! Forgive my cutting sarcasm, only I am in no mood for sense of humor! By the way, I take shot many clips that have been edited, checked by engineers and so circulate on my little, old SD900.
- #6
We should not lose sight of the fundamentals here - OP was a happy user of the Panasonic 900, but persuaded by the Marketing hype he switched ( er, rather too shortly, IMHO, but that's "hindsight").
Did he discover the new features useful - information technology seems Not, indeed one wonders which features actually fabricated him switch . . . just then Mfr'south are merely interested in "another auction" - so marginal improvements are magnified and disadvantages are erased.
Perchance OP tin can explain what's going on:
Outside ( in sunlight) it's Fab ( well, give thanks goodness, doesn't that resolve the Holiday pics? )
In depression-light ditto (would be useful to know where/how this is being lit, etc.)
-but- indoors ( in his apartment ), it appears to be a non-starter. . . . . so perhaps we could focus on the indoor well-lit?
1) Is this lit past the master window, ie there is a lord's day outside.
two) Where is the "subject" in relation to the window? (can we assume this a person, for convenience?)
3) Where is the camera?
four) Are in that location any reflectors, or fill-in lights - i.e. Nigh the subject?
five) Exercise you accept whatever examples of the aforementioned ready-upward, filmed on the (now Sold) SD900 - how well did that cope?, ...what settings did you use?...
- #vii
Actually I wasn't seduced past "Marketing hype" I was seduced by a much bigger sensor and higher bitrate and wider angle lens. The apartment to which I refer is a technical nightmare for any camcorder, professional or otherwise. Information technology is located in a loft and has 3 windows facing unlike directions and one immediately above that streams dominicus in a beam down to the flooring. The SD900 used to deal with all of this admirably, the X920 does not. I have tried every permutation in every setting and the only one that deals with the situation reasonably at best is the Intelligent Machine Plus setting, where you can white balance and adjust exposure. I have never used an Car setting before, but the manual setting on this camcorder is a nightmare. If you lot employ manual iris, information technology locks on to that setting until y'all change it and and then yous see the steps up and down and if you let auto have intendance of the discontinuity the matter goes completely haywire at the nearest sight of a vivid source somewhere in the picture. I take been working in Television receiver facilities for 30 years and have a very experienced center for a Television movie. Strangely I plant an onetime mail comparison an SD900 to an X900. The chap said, "I could count the hairs on my married woman's eyebrows with the SD900 and at present its all blurry, all the item has gone!" It looks like the SD900 was one of a kind.
- #8
Thanks for that personal insight . . . we did non know.
Are you sure this behaviour is typical of this camcorder?
Is it possible you have one with a fault?
Information technology is likely the "other Buyer" suffered a like fault, - as it is possible there is a pattern to the faults, whereas we tend "to wait" them to be completely random.
- #9
Well, afterward much malaise I may accept solved the problem. Information technology would announced that Panasonic have miss calibrated the X920 so that in its normal unadjusted state either in Auto or Transmission way the subject appears far brighter than it really is. In frustration I decided to try altering the Movie arrange settings in the carte du jour. So at present having lit the room I now knock the exposure back by -3, this and so matches what the actual lighting in the room is, add +3 to the sharpness and +3 to the color and hey presto! the camcorder is at present behaving similar one would wait from £900 worth of kit. It is unbelievable the difference these adjustments take made. Usually I would never modify these settings. My theory is that in order to please those obsessed with low light performance, Panasonic take actually calibrated their exposure and then equally "normal" ie zero is always +2 or +3 and color is e'er -2 and item is -ii. Now the picture is superb and surpasses with ease the SD 900, it has a "filmic" quality whilst retaining sharpness which unlike the Sd900 is neither harsh or unflattering. Information technology is still very sensitive to light changes and at present I must keep my finger ever fix to press the backlight option at the first sight of a window in the background. Outside filming at midday in bright sunshine with the new settings was, cartel I say it, "Awesome", God help me, I'm going all American, with please! I will report with further findings as I consummate more shoots.
- #10
Glad yous are happier,information technology would be nice if you could put some film on vimeo for us,i dont know if you are a vimeo plus member[im not]then the orioginal file can exist downloaded other wise vimeo only puts information technology online at 720P if people are non vimeo plus,youtube dont but at that place stuff deceit legaly be downloaded.
- #11
Glad to read the x920 is at present fixed.
It'southward surprising that Pana would upset their scale, but then it's possible some unauthorised aligning was washed, prior to OP opening the box?
If the window is a real issue the OP might similar to invest in some large reflectors . . . these costs nowt to run and are lightweight to bear.
- #12
What shooting fashion and where do I find the menu to adjust for these settings?
- #xiii
I've since sold my X920 simply as I recall you go into the main menu and look for film suit, you are then are given the options that yous tin adapt.
- #14
The X920 wasn't fitting your needs any longer?
- #xv
I am now dorsum filming in the original flat that I had my nightmare with the X920. Thankfully that pile of junk is somewhere k's of miles away in a new home. I managed to find an as new Panasonic SD900 and all is well once once more. Sun streams in the window, bleaches the back white wall and nevertheless every bit if by magic the subject remains in perfect exposure. Elation once once again!
- #xvi
Whilst it's practiced to read this is resolved . . . yet, I discover it difficult to understand how Pana (-or any Mfr) could produce an updated model with such junior performance . . . Then, I suspect
el nombremay well have been sold a defective unit . . . . peradventure we'll never know, - unless he joins a Picture-Making lodge and invites some mates round, who happen to bring one of this same Pana model that caused the grief . . . but if you practice, don't pre-empt the problem - simply let things work out, naturally.
Good luck with the filming-future.
- #21
I had an opportunity to be office of a 2-camera shoot, my ain CX410 was invited forth with the Standard-issue Pana 920 - and looking at the shots (in Edit), there is little between them, other than where they were pointed!
However, my Sony is set up to -0.5EV equally I like to preserve highlights (and you will know that the Auto is just a "best-guess" ), so in that location is always opportunity for errors and by having 0.5EV "in hand" means at that place is a corresponding loss in shadows (but who wants shadows? other than in night-shots, naturally.).
The Pana, beingness set to "normal" is definitely "brighter" - and this means that the cameras' shots demand tweaking to be a "fair match" - non certain that matters, but I've non found any FilmMakers that besides drib 0.5EV - so I'k guessing the Pana is set "correctly" and that means that at least One Pana is a good example of the camera-maker'due south craft.
Do any other affiche build-in any tweaks, mayhap?
- #23
perchance I'yard existence a bit DIM LOL ( sorry .. pun intended )... can only see exposure and colour, but I'll persevere with some more experiments. The cat is a good model simply keeps wandering off whenever he feels like it. 
yeah please.. if anyone else has found a expert setup then please share experience. I accept since bought another 'as new' SD700, and then tin directly compare the two like simply different setups side by side before selling either one on.. the viewfinder on the 920 is far superior but haven't noticed that much difference in HA1920 motion-picture show quality despite more megapixels... the 920 even looks 'fuzzy' on long zoom compared to 700... all very odd.
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